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pain

For some, a paper cut can be the biggest pain in the world -- a small knee scrape pure hell. Others live in crippling pain or are able to take the same types of pain more easily. -- At least without complaint. However, though a whiney person may have a cut on their hand, and the un whiney person may have the same cut -- to the passer-by, the whiney person would seemingly have the larger injury. However, the damage to the body is the same for the two.

This brings to question -- is it this the same for the psyche as well? We've all been through pain, and we've all been through emotional turmoil, but does it cause the same amount of damage to the psyche?

For example, two guys are dumped by their girlfriends. They loved their women exactly the same amount, and they were both equally shocked to find themselves suddenly single. The first (guy A) in this example cries and bemoans the loss of his girlfriend, telling all about all the things he's done for her and complains about how terrible she is, and all the wonderful stuff that happens after a breakup. The second (guy B) takes the loss within himself and moves on with his life.

Though guy A seems to be in more pain and guy B seems to bein less pain, does it mean that he's in any less pain? Guy A may be stuck in a stagnant position for a long time, whereas guy B will be able to move on and start new things -- however, does this mean that both suffered the same wound and the same damage to their psyche?

Or is it as if guy A keeps opening his wound for all to see, allowing it to fester and become a disgusting mass of grossness?

Is a puzzlement. This crossed my mind while lying in bed with my eyes open. ^_^ funny how that works.

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Posted by Kim @ 03:47 PM PST

14 have spoken

I guess that makes James guy A. :)

Posted by kim @ 01/28/2002 10:56 PM PST

i cut open my hand today again. everyone saw it. the glass wont budge.

Posted by james @ 01/28/2002 10:38 PM PST

my questions are neither a quest for truth nor am I seeking satisfaction through 'truth' or what can be perceived as truth.

believe it or not I actually ENJOY the fact that there are so many variables, so many loose ends and so many opposing truths -- that's what brings ME satisfaction.

what fun is something that is just black and white?

Posted by kim @ 01/28/2002 07:09 PM PST

you obviously think too much. What's so wrong about that??? hehe Well thats how I use to think. Then I realized, this type of thinking really gets you know where! It leaves you in the same position you were in in the first place: unsatisfied and still wanted to know the truth! But that's just it, the truth is what you perceive it to be. Discussing this is as pointless as debating whether there is a god or not. In short, your ups and downs, you misery and pain, could all be due to the lack of sleep, don't take that literally, what I mean to say is let you mind sleep for a while, let go of your thoughts, and especially other people's thougths as well. I'm not saying you'll feel better doing this, but you will feel relaxed. You can think you know everything and still be miserable. It's hard to find that one thing that makes you happy. And sadly, those who are complex and think complex thoughts, find that their journey to happiness is to complex. But hey, if we are meant to be complex individuals, then why fight it. Either way, we remain unsatisfied.

Posted by Chris [e-meo] @ 01/28/2002 06:04 PM PST

this question is hard, I think, because there are so many variables involved. afterall, how can you say who is hurting more?

My friend jeff made a good point as well : two people who react so differently to the situation would never have been in the same situation in the first place. :) oh well, it's all hypothetical anyhow.

Posted by kim @ 01/28/2002 12:20 PM PST

People handle pain differently... some are more use to it, some are just more private... either way I think the damages balance out... guy A may lose friendships cuz he whines and whines and never gets over it (let's say anyway), and in turn becomes USE to this state and nevr really move on...

while guy B may seem the more cool and level headed, he could be hruting inside and bottling up things that will eventually damage him emotionally, he may also close himself off emotionally and never be able to love again...

everyone is different, but maybe it balances out in the end... but the sad thing for me is, I think I resemble guy B more and that's scary because you dont THINK he has a problem, so you don't try and help... :(

Posted by Jesse [virtual dwelling] @ 01/28/2002 11:52 AM PST

I think Guy A and Guy B should ease both of their pains...in bed.

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Posted by Marc [e-meo] [virtual dwelling] @ 01/27/2002 09:14 PM PST

yeah, i agree wtih hyung..pain is definitely how you handle it...hmmmm =/

Posted by cindy [virtual dwelling] @ 01/27/2002 09:06 PM PST

Wanna??: You're funny. :D

Posted by Shmazzy @ 01/27/2002 08:02 PM PST

It's hard to tell. Guy A's feelings toward the situation is apparent. Because he externally expresses his anger, it would seem to one that he suffered more damage to his psyche; Guy A may seem more damaged emotionally. Externally, Guy B might be cool about it and moving on with his life, but one may not know exactly how he's feeling. He may have a lot of pent up anger toward the situation. Mentally, he may be in the same place he was when his girlfriend dumped him.

I'm hoping I made sense. :)

Posted by Shmazzy [e-meo] [virtual dwelling] @ 01/27/2002 07:58 PM PST

is this one of those question "if trains A leaves NY at 9PM going 75 mph and train B leave Dallas going 60 mph...."???

i really suck at those =o\ and if you ask me...i wish the two trains crash into each other and everyone die!! Die!!! hahaha

in this case, i hope the two guys will find each other and turn gay and guy A could be the girl on the relationship cause he’s all emotional and stuff and they move to hawaii to have a gay marriage and adopt a gay kid and live happily ever after and then they die!! DIE!!! hehehe

Posted by wanna?? @ 01/27/2002 06:45 PM PST

I think pain is always what you make of it. Damage and pain are different things; pain is the perception of damage. In this case, guy A and B simply handle pain differently. I think in cases dealing with the psyche, its harder to guage "damage," simply because the mind is a funky-ass thing.

Posted by Hyung @ 01/27/2002 05:00 PM PST

hehe true. but do they suffer the same damage?

Posted by kim @ 01/27/2002 04:35 PM PST

Guy A likes pouring salt on his open wound.

Posted by Eric [e-meo] [virtual dwelling] @ 01/27/2002 04:07 PM PST

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